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First-tier Tribunal Approves Tenant's Extended Lease Terms

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📌 In brief

The First-tier Tribunal approved the terms of an extended lease and decided that the tenant must pay £1,732.50 in costs to the landlord under the Leasehold Reform Act 1993.

⚖️ Legal holding

a person is entitled to have the terms of an extended lease determined by the Tribunal.

Topics

tenancy agreementlease extensioncosts determination

Provisions

Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 s.60

📖 Technical summary

The Tribunal approved the terms of the extended lease and determined the costs payable by the tenant.

📜 Headnote Official document

The Tribunal approved the terms of the extended lease and determined that the tenant must pay £1,732.50 in costs to the landlord under the Leasehold Reform Act 1993.

📚 Full judgment Official document

OUTCOME: Allowed in Part

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FIRST-TIER TRIBUNAL PROPERTY CHAMBER (RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY) Case Reference : CAM/00MD/OLR/2018/0129 Property : 38 [ADDRESS] [POSTCODE] Applicant: [redacted]

[NAME] Ms [COUNSEL] : In person Respondent : [redacted] : Mr [COUNSEL] - Counsel Type of [NAME] :

Determination of the terms of the extended lease and costs under the Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 Tribunal Members :

Tribunal Judge Dutton Mrs S F Redmond BSc (Econ) MRICS Venue and Date of hearing : Slough Magistrates Court on 12th December 2018 Date of Decision : 14th December 2018

DECISION

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DECISION

The Tribunal approves the terms of the extended lease in the form included in the bundle before us at tab 6 pages 51 to 59 with the deletion of the wording "(For the avoidance of doubt the porch to the side of the building of which the Property forms part is NOT included in this demise)".

The Tribunal determines that the sum payable by the Applicants in respect of the Respondent’s costs under the provisions of section 60 of the Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 (the Act) is £1,732.50 inclusive of all disbursements and VAT.

BACKGROUND

1. This is an [NAME] for the determination of the terms of the extended lease and the costs payable by the Applicants to the Respondent under the provisions of section 60 of the Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 (the Act).

2. In the papers before us we had copies of the Notice and Counter-Notice and the [NAME]. In addition to a Points in Dispute schedule we were supplied with two copies of the travelling draft lease, the first at pages 51 to 59 of the bundle and the second at pages 60 to 69. In addition the bundle contained a witness statement of the Applicants and a letter from the managing agents instructed to act on behalf of the Respondent, who are [RESPONDENT]. The bundle contained copies of emails and letters passing between the parties, which we shall refer to as necessary in the course of this Decision.

3. The premium had been agreed at £15,000 and would appear to have taken into account that the flat has the benefit of an enclosed porch, a matter to which we shall return. The legal costs were claimed at £3,926.40 inclusive of VAT and disbursements. The valuation fee of [NAME] was agreed at £690 and forms part of the total costs above.

4. The [NAME] was originally to determine the premium payable and other terms of acquisition.

5. On the question of the lease we noted the findings we made in July 2018 on an [NAME] by the Respondent seeking a determination under section 168(4) of the Commonhold and Leasehold Reform Act 2002 under case reference CAM/00MD/LBC/2018/0008. In that decision we said this concerning the porch. 34 We turn then to the question of the porch which is more problematic. We note all that Mr [NAME] says about the lease plan and accept that there is some weight to that argument. However, we are an expert tribunal. Our view is that the materials used to

3 construct the porch predate 1999. Although Mr [NAME] said at if he were trying to argue that the porch had been erected in 1970 then he may have a difficulty because the materials it could be argued were not in existence at that time. However, as he merely seeks to argue that the porch was erected after 1999, he does not have that problem. Whilst we hear what he says, as an expert tribunal we are entitled to consider the porch construction. We are satisfied that the aluminium singled-glazed sliding door, the plastic roof and the brickwork are indicative of works carried out before 1999. We also have the concern that the porch appears to have been erected over part of the common parts, albeit that affording access to the maisonette and therefore is not an extension of the demised premises as such, although we would have to accept that it is an amendment to the plan/elevation for which on the face of it consent would have to be required.

35 However, again it seems to us that the burden of proof rests

with the Applicant. They have owned the freehold of this property

since January of 1989. In that time, we would have thought that they

would have inspected on a fairly regular basis and should have known

before 2016, as that appears to be the time the breach came to their

attention, that a porch had been constructed. Using our knowledge

and experience we are of the view that the porch was on the balance of

probability likely to have been constructed before the date of the new

lease in 1999. In those circumstances, therefore, we are not satisfied

that the construction of the porch constitutes a breach of the lease.

36. For the reasons set out above we conclude that the Applicants

have not proved their case and we therefore dismiss the [NAME].

37. As a matter of comment, we would perhaps add, although this

is not strictly within our jurisdiction, that it seems to us the Applicants

were aware of the breach in respect of the porch and the windows by

November of 2016 as they wrote to the Respondents at that time. The

letter is marked without prejudice but it was in the bundle and was

not objected to by Mr [NAME]. We understand from Mr [NAME] that

he has paid a ground rent it having been demanded from him in

August of 2017. Again, a matter not challenged.

38 In addition also, it seems to us that the erection of the porch is

more than 12 years ago which may give rise to adverse possession

arguments. Further, the limitation period relating to forfeiture would

seem to be 12 years from the date of such breach.

6. In the Notice served under s42 of the Act there is no reference to the porch being included within the proposed demise. In the Notice the terms proposed by the Applicants is on the same terms as the Lease, defined as being the one dated 19th February 1999 and the Property is described by reference to a plan attached which appears to exclude the area upon which, it is accepted, a porch has, in the past, been built.

4 7. Mr [RESPONDENT], for the Respondent was at pains to confirm that the Respondent was not seeking to be difficult. It accepted that the decision made in July 2018 concerning the alleged breach was binding on it. The concern was that if the Respondent acquiesced to the request of the Applicants and explicitly included the porch in the demise this would expose the Respondent to a claim by the lessee of the upper flat that there had been a derogation of grant by conveying away part of the common parts to the Applicants. Further the lessee of the upper flat was not a party to these proceedings.

8. We set out below our findings on the lease terms

9. Mr [NAME] confirmed he was instructed to deal with the claim for costs on behalf of the Respondent. He told us that [RESPONDENT] ([NAME]) and [RESPONDENT] ([NAME]) were "related" in that [NAME] was a partnership, the partners of which were the directors of [NAME]. One in particular, Mr [NAME] had considerable experience in property matters and was an Estate agent but had no professional qualification. His hourly rate was £225, although no evidence was supplied as to how this rate had been settled upon. Mr [NAME] confirmed he would be happy for us to assess the costs on the basis of what we considered would be a suitable hourly rate gleaned from the HMCTS Guidelines on Solicitors charging rates.

10. On the question of his own fees for advising the Respondent on the lease terms he confirmed that his hourly rate was £300 and that two invoices had been rendered totalling £500 plus VAT, the second, it seems, being a request for confirmation that the first one was correct. It also included drafting a response to the Tribunal, which he quite rightly pointed out to us should not be payable by the Applicant as it related to proceedings before us and the fee of £300 should therefore be halved, giving a total claim for Counsel's fee of £350 plus VAT.

11. We also questioned Mr [NAME] on the appropriateness of the recovery of fees for the notice of a deposit and access. His view was that in respect of the deposit this was part of the conveyancing costs recoverable under s60 (1)(c). On the question of the Notice seeking access, he confirmed that this was not common and there was no evidence that the Applicants had indicated an unwillingness to grant the Respondent's [NAME] access to the property. He was not able to help us on the heading referring to General Correspondence and conceded that on the face of the costs schedule there appeared to be duplication in respect of the drafting of the lease for which [NAME] claimed £650 to include the Counter-Notice, and the fees of [COMPANY] solicitors of £600 plus VAT for dealing with the lease.

12. We have noted all that has been said in the Points of Dispute, which has been completed by both sides.

5 THE LAW

13. The provisions of section 60 are set out in the appendix and have been

applied by us in reaching this decision.

FINDINGS

14. On the terms of the extended lease we accept Mr [NAME] concerns

in respect of the derogation of grant and the involvement of the lessee

of the upper flat. In fact, we do not consider it is necessary to become

involved in that issue. The Notice served under s42 of the Act does not

refer to the porch. Instead it refers to the existing 1999 lease and to a

plan annexed, which follows the lease plan and the extent of the

property registered at HM Land Registry. Our findings in July 2018 on

the breach of covenant point gives the Applicants the security of an un-

appealed decision.

15. Accordingly, we conclude that the lease should be agreed in the

form before us excluding reference, in the positive or negative, relating

to the porch. The lease should be silent on the point. On any sale the

Applicants can rely on our findings. If any purchaser requires further

support then some form of insurance may be available, although we

wonder at the need. Mr [RESPONDENT] accepted that the Respondent is

bound by our July decision. As to the maintenance of the porch it

seems to us that as the Applicant has, in effect, a full repairing lease

then the liability to maintain the porch will rest with them and their

successors in title.

16. We turn then to the costs. The first point is the hourly rate of Mr [NAME].

We understand he lives in or near Guildford, which is an area for which

[NAME] would apply in respect of the Guidelines for Solicitors

charges. Mr [NAME] accepted that the [NAME] of the Guide line

rate would be reasonable. However, Mr [COUNSEL] is not a solicitor. We are

given no details of the overheads upon which we could assess the rate

applicable. Further, there is no certificate as required in the directions

order confirming that the costs claimed are those payable by the

Respondent. We bear in mind the close relationship between [NAME] and

[NAME] but accept that the Respondent may make use of a managing agent

in the enfranchisement process.

17. Against those shortcomings we do accept that Mr [NAME] is experienced

in residential matters and the documents produced by [NAME] bear that

out. The Respondent is entitled to recover the costs incurred in the

lease extension process under section 60(1) but bearing in mind the

provisions of the remainder of that section, in particular

subsection (2), we conclude that the hourly rate, akin to a Grade A

solicitor in the London Grade 3 to be excessive. The question we must

answer is what is the appropriate rate, in the absence of any indication

as to the overheads of [NAME] and the shortcomings we highlighted above.

Our decision is that it would be reasonable to allow the rate applicable

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to [NAME] and other fee earners in [NAME] of £118 per

hour.

18. With that in mind we then considered the fees claimed as set out at

page 186 of the bundle. The first element is the receiving of

instructions and considering the Initial Notice. We accept one hour

being spent on this which gives a fee of £118.

19. We are content with the time spent on instructing [NAME] to

undertake the valuation, which gives a fee of £47.20.

20. In respect of the Notices for the deposit and deduction of title we find

that the latter is allowable, the former is not. We do not consider that a

notice requiring a deposit falls within s60 of the Act. We therefore

allow £41.30, being half the time claimed at the allowed rate.

21. We do not consider that a Notice requiring Access was necessary. No

evidence was adduced to show that the Applicants had blocked access

to the Respondent's surveyor. This was an unnecessary expense and is

disallowed in full under the provisions of s60(2).

22. The times spent in respect of instructing [COMPANY], receiving

title documents and considering the [NAME]'s report are reasonable and

allowed at the appropriate rate. This gives a total claim for costs

for these three matters of one hour at £118.

23. In respect of the preparation and service of the Counter-Notice we have

considered the document, which is simple and unremarkable. We

consider 30 minutes would have been sufficient to produce such a

document and therefore allow the sum of £59 (included in the total at para 24).

24. Whilst we note that the Counter-Notice has the draft lease attached we

do not consider that the Respondent can have it both ways. [NAME] produced the lease or TWM did. It would seem that [NAME] produced

an initial draft which was reviewed by TWM, as per their email

dated 26th November 2018. Doing the best we can, and in the absence

of any attendance at the hearing by [NAME] or [NAME] we conclude that the

draft was a standard one, indeed that would seem to be the case as it

contains nothing contentious. It is only when the question of the porch

is raised that solicitors might have considered same. In fact they sought

the opinion of Mr [NAME] so it is difficult to see what was done

other than to complete the transaction. In those circumstances we

allow a further 30 minutes of time for Mr [NAME] giving a

further sum of £59, [NAME] the total payable for this element

£118.

25. We make no allowance for the claim in respect of General

correspondence as we have no idea to what this related and there

appears to be a duplicate in respect of the instructions of TWM, we

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having already allowed an amount for this element at paragraph 22

above.

26. The fees of [NAME] are agreed at £690. As to Mr [NAME] fees

we are minded to allow the first fee of £200 plus VAT.

However, we disallow the second which appeared, as confirmed by Mr

[NAME], to be nothing more than confirmation and drafting a

letter to the Tribunal, neither of which we find fall with the provisions

of section 60.

27. Finally the fees of TWM. If we accept that [NAME] produced the first draft

there is little required of TWM, and that which was, required Counsel's

opinion. No fee note has been produced although there are emails

confirming that the fee will be restricted to £600 plus VAT. Again doing

the best we can we conclude that the fees of TWM should be

reduced to £300 plus VAT, which we consider sufficient to deal

with the instructing of Counsel, the minor amendment to the lease and

handling clients money.

SUMMARY

Paragraph 18 £118

Paragraph 19 £47.20

Paragraph 20 £41.30

Paragraph 22 £118

Paragraph 24 £118

Paragraph 26 £690 and £240

Paragraph 27 £360

Total £1,732.50.

Standing back and reviewing it seems to us that a fee of £1,732.50 is

proportionate to the premium payable of £15,000, and although that is

not the basis upon which we have assessed the costs, it is, we find a

reasonable sum payable under the provisions of s60 of the Act,

Andrew Dutton Tribunal Judge Dutton 14th December 2018

Rights of appeal

By rule 36(2) of the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Property Chamber) Rules 2013, the tribunal is required to notify the parties about any right of appeal they may have.

8 If a party wishes to appeal this decision to the Upper Tribunal (Lands Chamber), then a written [NAME] for permission must be made to the First-tier Tribunal at the [NAME] which has been dealing with the case. The [NAME] for permission to appeal must arrive at the [NAME] within 28 days after the tribunal sends written reasons for the decision to the [NAME]. If the [NAME] is not made within the 28 day time limit, such [NAME] must include a request for an extension of time and the reason for not complying with the 28 day time limit; the tribunal will then look at such reason(s) and decide whether to allow the [NAME] for permission to appeal to proceed, despite not being within the time limit. The [NAME] for permission to appeal must identify the decision of the tribunal to which it relates (i.e. give the date, the property and the case number), state the grounds of appeal and state the result the party [NAME] the [NAME] is seeking. If the tribunal refuses to grant permission to appeal, a further [NAME] for permission may be made to the Upper Tribunal (Lands Chamber).

The Relevant Law 60 Costs incurred in connection with new lease to be paid by tenant. (1)Where a notice is given under section 42, then (subject to the provisions of this section) the tenant by whom it is given shall be liable, to the extent that they have been incurred by any relevant person in pursuance of the notice, for the reasonable costs of and incidental to any of the following matters, namely— (a)any investigation reasonably undertaken of the tenant’s right to a new lease; (b)any valuation of the tenant’s flat obtained for the purpose of fixing the premium or any other amount payable by virtue of Schedule 13 in connection with the grant of a new lease under section 56; (c)the grant of a new lease under that section; but this subsection shall not apply to any costs if on a sale made voluntarily a stipulation that they were to be borne by the purchaser would be void. (2)For the purposes of subsection (1) any costs incurred by a relevant person in respect of professional services rendered by any person shall only be regarded as reasonable if and to the extent that costs in respect of such services might reasonably be expected to have been incurred by him if the circumstances had been such that he was personally liable for all such costs. (3)Where by virtue of any provision of this Chapter the tenant’s notice ceases to have effect, or is deemed to have been withdrawn, at any time, then (subject to subsection (4)) the tenant’s liability under this section for costs incurred by any person shall be a liability for costs incurred by him down to that time. (4)[NAME] shall not be liable for any costs under this section if the tenant’s notice ceases to have effect by virtue of section 47(1) or 55(2). (5)[NAME] shall not be liable under this section for any costs which a party to any proceedings under this Chapter before a leasehold valuation tribunal incurs in connection with the proceedings.

9 (6)In this section “relevant person”, in relation to a claim by [NAME] under this Chapter, means the landlord for the purposes of this Chapter, any other landlord (as defined by section 40(4)) or any third party to the tenant’s lease.

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⚖️ What tends to weigh in cases like this

✅ Tends to be accepted

  • The Tribunal approved the extended lease terms as presented in the bundle, with one specific deletion.
  • The Tribunal determined the payable costs for the respondent to be £1,732.50, including all disbursements and VAT.
  • The previous decision from July 2018, which found no breach of covenant regarding the porch, was binding on the respondent.
  • The notice served by the applicants for the lease extension did not mention the porch, referring instead to the existing 1999 lease and its plan.
  • The Tribunal found that a fee of £118 for receiving instructions and considering the Initial Notice was reasonable.

❌ Tends to be rejected

  • The wording explicitly including or excluding the porch in the lease was rejected, as the lease should be silent on this point.
  • The claim for general correspondence was disallowed due to lack of clarity and apparent duplication.

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❓ Frequently asked questions

What did this decision decide?

The Tribunal approved the terms of the extended lease and determined the costs payable by the tenant.

Who was involved?

The tenant requested an extended lease, while the landlord opposed the inclusion of a porch in the lease terms.

How did the court decide, and why?

The court decided to approve the lease terms excluding any mention of the porch and set the costs payable by the tenant.

Which laws or rules were applied?

The Leasehold Reform, Housing and Urban Development Act 1993 was applied to determine the costs.

What was the argument that mattered most?

The argument centered around the inclusion of the porch in the lease terms and the costs associated with the lease extension.

Was the decision for or against the person who brought the case?

The decision was partly for and partly against the tenant, approving the lease terms but setting higher costs than initially claimed.

What does this mean for someone in a similar situation?

Someone in a similar situation should expect to negotiate lease terms and costs with the landlord, potentially involving a tribunal.

What evidence or documents mattered?

Witness statements, emails, letters, and the travelling draft lease were important in the decision-making process.

Can a decision like this be appealed?

Yes, a party can appeal this decision to the Upper Tribunal within 28 days of receiving the written reasons.

Is it worth getting a solicitor for a case like this?

It is advisable to seek legal advice from a qualified solicitor for cases involving lease extensions and cost determinations.

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